I recently ran out of room on my internal 160 GB harddrive, mainly due to my mp3 collection. All told, I have over 100 GB of music, and I buy more all the time. Couple that with video and my digital pictures, and I'm totally out of space. To solve the problem, I decided to add another harddrive. I was hoping to go with NAS, but after looking around, I didn't really find anything that offered a decent enough price/storage ratio. In the end, I added another internal drive. I went with a Seagate 250 MB SATA drive to match the 160 GB drive I already have. I chose Seagate because they are the only company offering a 5 year warranty. Earlier this year, I had two harddrives go within a month of each other. One was 4 years old, and the other 3.
I run Windows XP at home, and store all of my music/pictures/videos in shared folders as both my wife and I have our own iPods. The way I have it all configured, we have our own iTunes XML library files so that we can have our own song ratings, play lists, stats, etc., but make use of the same library of songs from the shared folders. Since I was planning to move all of our media to the new drive, I knew I was going to have to make some changes to both Windows and iTunes to get it all configured correctly.
The first thing to create new folders on the new drive and get Windows to recognize them as my shared folders instead of the default shared folders located in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents. To do this, you need to make some registry changes. Please note that if you use TweakUI, it claims to be able to change the shared documents location, but it doesn't work. The only way I have found to do this is by directly modifying the registry. For specific instructions, see here. After following the instructions, I had my shared documents folder located at D:\Shared Documents. I put a My Music, My Pictures, and My Videos folder under Shared Documents.
The next step was to copy all 100 GB of my music collection from my C drive to the new location on the D drive. This took about 30 minutes or so to complete. One thing to note here. I don't let iTunes manage my music in terms of letting it take control of my files and folders. I tried this once when I first switched to iTunes and found that it basically sucks. iTunes may think it knows how to best organize your music collection, but it doesn't. I didn't like it's organization of naming conventions at all. I've always let iTunes keep it's library and xml file in my My Documents folder, but my actual music has always resided elsewhere.
You may be asking why I didn't simply blow away my iTunes xml and database files and re-import all of my music. If I did that, I would lose all of the rating information, play lists, etc. that I mentioned earlier. So, in order to get iTunes to recognize my music in the new shared folders location, I needed to tweak the iTunes XML file that points to each song. It took me quite a bit of trial and error to get this right last night. In the end, this is the procedure that worked:
I like iTunes, but I find it's library management style a bit fascist. iTunes takes the attitude of 'the user is too dumb to handle his own files, lets not give him any options and do everything for him'. This is good for dumb users, but not for 'power' users (i.e. people who know how to copy files using explorer/finder).
After copying a bunch of new files to the library folder, there is no way to scan for new files and refresh the library. The only way I've found is to delete the library XML file and reimport everything from scratch (which takes about 5 minutes)
I agree with you on the iTunes control, which is why I uncheck "Let iTunes Manage My Music".
As for scanning for new files, I can see your point. I think my workflow is just a little different, so I haven't noticed quite as much. What I do when I get a new CD is to rip it (which puts it in the iTunes directory, then delete the enrry from the iTunes library, then copy the folder to where I want it to be, then import it back into iTunes. It's a bit of a pain, but I've gotten it down so that it only takes me a minute to do.
the iTunes Music Library.xml file "contains some (but not all) of the same information stored in the" iTunes Library.itl file. My question is, what information is important in iTunes Library.itl that might be lost if I were to delete it? Or is it just information that will be recreated automatically? I want to preserve all the information such as playlists, song ratings, last played, play count, changes to song information (when changed through iTunes).
Thanks.
Any thoughts how having different iPods affects all this?
But the songs that were previously in my C: shared folder and that are now in my z: shared folder simply don't appear in my playlist.
I did the xml find/replace. Corrupted the music library file (when starting itunes, it didn't ask if I want it to be recreated - instead it told me it was "damaged" and that it would be saved as a damaged file - and made me a new one automatically).
Any ideas as to how to make this work. It is frustrating after tens of hours of trying this and trying that....
I had been struggling for ages before this. Wonder why apple don't document it?
The easiest way of moving files is as follows:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301...
That only works if you let iTunes manage your music collection, which I don't (and most people I know with iPods don't as well) as I don't like the way that iTunes organizes the music, and I really don't like the way that it names songs.
If you follow the instructions on the Apple web site, and you weren't letting iTunes manage your music before, it will rewrite all of your song names, and in most cases, totally rearrange your folder/file structure. My method preserves everything the way you had it.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301...
I've just moved to Windows Vista and the music folder is arranged differently, so lost all my ratings on my initial import. I then edited the XML file, but it still wouldn't work. I gave up and tried using MusicBridge, etc but to no avail. It's at that point I came across your post!
The only thing I was missing was the 'trashing itl file' bit. I deleted it instead, which is where I was going wrong.
5 minutes later - All ratings/playlists are restored! Many thanks :)
Now to fix my podcasts...
my laptop basically crashed and windows went weird, so i got it fixed and unfortunately my entire computer was wiped out. fortunately i had my music saved to my external harddrive, but its saved in a 'itunes music database file' which means nothing to me, and when i try and open it with itunes, it opens itunes and nothing else happens. i searched and opened it online and realised that every song on it was saved to where itunes had saved it before the crash - that place is now wiped out. is there a waythat i can get all of my music back onto itunes as it was before???
any help whatsoever will be gratefully accepted!!!!
Dan, sine the itunes xml file only contains metadata bout your songs, you're going to need another program to move the files off of your ipod and back on to your PC. I don't know the name of it, but there is a popular program for doing just that.
there is a way of getting music off of your ipod and onto your computer without a 3rd person program, it's quite simple if you have hidden files as visible.
http://www.mp3buzz.net/index.php/2006/06/27/how-to...
this is a link on how to get music off of the ipod and onto your computer, but don't worry if you can't find the ipod as an other disk drive, search your compurer via the 'start' and 'search' button norm on the right of the 'start-menu', and search for ipod in files and folders. That is not meant to be in anyway patronising, just to make it easier for fellow non-computer-clever people ;-). I think this only works for PC's, i am not sure how to do this on an apple.
However, when I followed the steps, I found that Itunes did report a corrupted ITL file (as expected), but then it overwrote my 13mb .xml file with an empty file as well.
Did I miss something?
Any assistance is appreciated!
Thanks,
Stacey
I was on the right track earlier today... but couldn't get it quite right. Blanking the .ITL was the trick.
For those having trouble, it took me two tries. I think I messed up the copy and replace the first time. Make sure you keep your original .XML and .ITL files backed up. Second try was the winner.
Thanks again,
Ken
On the Advanced tab, I have both of the boxes unchecked. I too have all of my music on a different drive.
Ken - you make mention of a very important point. Always make sure you have a backup of your XML and ITL files before you start!
Thanks again,
drummerjoe
The information is still relevant for the Windows version of iTunes. On the latest Windows version of iTunes (7.0.2), the .itl file still exists.
I'm glad it worked for you as well. It seems like this is a pretty common issue. I wish Apple would just add better support for this directly in iTunes.
Thank you!
HOWEVER, none of my podcasts are there. Has anyone any idea on getting the podcasts moved, as well?
Tom
"song rating" and "play count" info, which was my goal. When I re-opened iTunes after corrupting the .itl file (no longer called that in iTunes 7.3.2.6), it didn't offer to
rebuild the database like these instructions say it should have, but rather claimed it couldn't do anything about the damaged database and opened iTunes as an empty and
unpersonalized program. I re-imported all my music and settings (which took quite a while), but after all that work I'm now wary of trying again because I don't want to
have to re-import everything again.
Any suggestions on how to make old song ratings and especially play count show up in iTunes on my new PC? (It runs Vista, which may be part of the problem...)
Thanks so much for these instructions, however! They are the most straightforward and helpful instructions I have found so far, and I really appreciate the time and
effort put in to helping others with the same problem. I wish iTunes/Apple would provide more support on this topic.
this would work before I I end up having to tell iTunes where my 4000+ songs are individually.
That setting only affects where the iTunes Library XML file gets stored, not the location of your actual MP3 files.
And my new drive is F:\iTunes\Music and then several subfolders of albums.
Also, with this being the destination, wht should CommonDocuments extension read, just (F:)? Please help.